Why is AMD the Budget Option for Gamers?

  • Published: 13 March 2019
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  • palindari
    palindari  29 minutes back

    Try making a balls out Intel v. AMD - then compare bang-for-buck comparisons... that is if you haven't already...

    • Felipe Andrade
      Felipe Andrade  3 hours back

      Other price points would be great. Another good one would be for other uses too, like content creators or science/engineering stuff. There is a lot of IT/engineering students and new content creators trying to maximize bang for a buck but they don't have any idea.

      • Cam P
        Cam P  4 hours back

        Should've checked professional performance as well

        • NvrUseYur RealName
          NvrUseYur RealName  4 hours back

          ...So confused. He said the Intel Core i5-8400(6 cores @ 2.8GHz) is "more powerful" than the AMD Ryzen 5 2600(6 cores @ 3.4GHz).... HOW?
          I'm admittedly way behind on processors(& a lot of PC hardware these days), but that just seems like a REALLY big difference to me & in the opposite direction from his statement. ...So, yea, what on Earth am I missing? Someone explain it to me please & thank you so much. :/

          • Kashif Riley
            Kashif Riley  7 hours back

            I'm actually getting an AMD Ryzen 2950X for my new build and the value was so good it allowed me to get more NvMe SSD and more memory

            • Planet Random
              Planet Random  8 hours back

              I Love how Linus was bitching with the hp 360 and saying how bad it was but he’s using it in this video, and a few months back saying how bad apple was, but Tweets from an iPhone. Linus, you’re full of shit and everyone knows it

              • Gupinder Momi
                Gupinder Momi  10 hours back

                What about quality over time? Which rig would last longer?

                • DennisTheGamer
                  DennisTheGamer  10 hours back

                  I was close to buying a i5 8400, but rather switched to a Ryzen 5 2600X, because of better benchmarks and I could get at a discount.

                  • joseph bras
                    joseph bras  18 hours back

                    could it be possible you sugest me a configuration for at maximum 1000 dolars pc tower. games are not important, but the quality of the material are. it should run at least for 5 years. its purpuse is downloading media and watching video at in 4 k at 1gps speed. i think it shoul have a dedicate video card for not put that efort in the cpu. not overclocked, the motherbord sould have the latest wifi conection avaible.

                    • Birdy Reene
                      Birdy Reene  20 hours back

                      I love these videos and it was neat seeing what they put together with a 750 dollar budget, but im curious fps benchmark wise how well both these builds in this video would do on poorly optimized games on a populated Rust server or Conan exiles server. I can torture my moldy potato of a pc all day long with csgo at around 55 fps on medium settings. but if I fire up rust, even if I run it on potato setting. with all its other optional settings as low as they can possibly go, I get 12 to 22 fps tops X_x and 30 in conan exiles. So im really curious how well either of these budget builds they showed in this video would run rust at low and medium settings.

                      • Gullraiz Nadeem
                        Gullraiz Nadeem  21 hours back

                        Do one for content creation PCs

                        • Wesley Beason
                          Wesley Beason  1 days back

                          Do more videos like this, really gave true data for when your buying computer parts online. Thanks for the video.

                          • Sam C
                            Sam C  1 days back

                            really enjoyed this type of video. More chill, good information and well presented without being over the top.

                            • Maaxiim
                              Maaxiim  1 days back

                              My fx 4300 still runs, but I'll upgrade to a 2600 or 3600 depending on their release

                              • Marsted Roashmallows
                                Marsted Roashmallows  2 days back

                                I'd like to see this comparison again at $500 with the amd system using a amd gpu. I think that'd be somewhat fair because amd doesn't have competition for the rtx 20 series cards yet.

                                • connostyper
                                  connostyper  2 days back

                                  From me the situation is different. You can built an AMD system with high end motherboard that is cheper than Intel. Then cheap out on cpu for example 2600. AMD motherboards will support 3rd generation ryzen. You can upgrade later if needed.

                                  • Bud King
                                    Bud King  2 days back

                                    Anthony, with the money you save buying AMD you can put towards fixing your hair.

                                    • Crimson Salmadin
                                      Crimson Salmadin  2 days back

                                      The one thing that AMD has over Intel is the upgradeability of the CPU on current motherboards.

                                      • Valentin Dimitrov
                                        Valentin Dimitrov  2 days back

                                        These types of videos are pure gold Linus.. oh and Anthony's build destroyed, I guess he is much more qualified :D

                                        • Derek Stinson
                                          Derek Stinson  2 days back

                                          Anthony should have got a second try too.

                                          • JD Gaming
                                            JD Gaming  2 days back

                                            upgrade the 2600 to a 1700 since you have 15$ more, also currently the 8400 is $199.99

                                            • Jasonoid
                                              Jasonoid  2 days back

                                              Hoping to see what Ryzen 3000 does to the CPU market. Bring more competition from Intel? Let's hope so!

                                              • The Automaticist
                                                The Automaticist  2 days back

                                                Can you redo this at around $1300 USD (about the value of the computer I built)

                                                • Deyvson Moutinho Caliman

                                                  I don't know how CPU performance are these days, but in Nvidia against AMD when they sell similar performance graphic boards, the AMD ones already come overclocked, they spend more energy and have higher temperatures. So if you overclock Nvidia you can go further, put more load into it, because it's harder to make it overheat. I thought it would be the same with CPUs, but it seems that AMD is really up to par with Intel nowadays, although I would like to see CPU temperatures in those tests, those temperatures should be the same because if Intel had a lower temperature it could be overclocked more.

                                                  • megadeth22885
                                                    megadeth22885  2 days back

                                                    wtf is the "amd build" using a nvidia GPU?.. so this is just a CPU comparison then?

                                                    • Chivokroy
                                                      Chivokroy  2 days back

                                                      Science done right: "It certainly wasn't what we were expecting, but we're going with it."

                                                      • Jigsaw
                                                        Jigsaw  3 days back

                                                        Send me a gaming laptop and I'll draw an animal for you Linus.

                                                        • DJJEZ1983
                                                          DJJEZ1983  3 days back

                                                          Amd is for broke peasants. Change my mind

                                                          • مقاطع مترجمة

                                                            Does he change the video Title !! weird

                                                            • Nick Schafer
                                                              Nick Schafer  3 days back

                                                              I feel they cheated on AMD here. They adjusted the intel specs for something that can't be overclocked(While improving specs and saving cost) when in the first place of the video that one of their requirements was it HAD to be an overclockable CPU.

                                                              • Suleman Zaidi
                                                                Suleman Zaidi  3 days back

                                                                isn't the i3-8350k better than the i5-8400? Much higher base clock, even when the 8400 goes into turbo and plus its cheaper

                                                                • UgLiest_handsome
                                                                  UgLiest_handsome  3 days back

                                                                  $1250 budget plz

                                                                  • Nathan Gamble
                                                                    Nathan Gamble  3 days back

                                                                    Well, they've got to do the same with AMD vs nVidia now.

                                                                    • haloguy32375
                                                                      haloguy32375  3 days back

                                                                      the real question is, why cant linus hold expensive equipment without dropping it

                                                                      • Robert Therrien
                                                                        Robert Therrien  3 days back

                                                                        When GPU are $1000. Then AMD processors are the best.

                                                                        • Paul Gariepy
                                                                          Paul Gariepy  4 days back

                                                                          Linus you should do a AMD vs Intel reliability / compatibility shootout. One of the reasons I left AMD back in the Athlon days was the chipsets were buggy and the USB ports always seemed to have issues vs the Intel platforms. AKA which platform is more stable especially when we talk about AMD winning with overclocking.

                                                                          • Galaxy Eyes Photon Dragon
                                                                            Galaxy Eyes Photon Dragon  5 hours back

                                                                            +Ducky The Duck No way that will be true. Their 7 nm is kind of a marketing lie, only some parts of the CPU are 7nm and it doesn't affect the transistor density.

                                                                          • Ducky The Duck
                                                                            Ducky The Duck  22 hours back

                                                                            As a Ryzen 5 1500x owner that has a hard cap on overclocking at 4.2ghz, the 2000 series expandded this i can say that even the stock cooler ( the wraith spire) can get you to 4.2 but it will be hot, 85c hot and ryzen overclocking is stable at 75c and i get crashes from time to time, USB support is stellar, no issues with it at all, i honestly had more issues with intel based systems as with usb stability than this

                                                                            If you want to move to amd wait for ZEN 2/3000 series, they will ( according to the leaks and press shows from amd) have 20% more performance per core than any intel architecture so it will be an interesting thing to see if it actually is true

                                                                        • Fredrik Lindlöf
                                                                          Fredrik Lindlöf  4 days back

                                                                          Something not mentioned in the video is value over time, I.E upgradability. Would love to see a video where they make approximations of each parts viable lifetime, and show plausible current and future upgradepaths and what the value preposition becomes then.

                                                                          • fmalone03
                                                                            fmalone03  4 days back

                                                                            AMD also has a upgrade path. Intel regularly dumps support for current chipsets when they release a new CPU even though the performance gains are minimal and after a couple of years if you are looking for upgrades you will more than likely have to change your motherboard and CPU at once on Intel.

                                                                            • Anders Larsson
                                                                              Anders Larsson  4 days back

                                                                              If it’s AMD vs Intel you have to go with an AMD GPU ;)

                                                                              • Pure Gameplay
                                                                                Pure Gameplay  4 days back

                                                                                LOL american prices are seriously FUCKED. In Canada, I3 8350k is $320+ and the ryzen 5 2600 is $230, Come to Canada and you'll definitely see the price to performance that AMD has over swagtel. Ryzen 5 2600 and 2600x shit all over the I3 and cost 30% less, its literally a no brainer. The real title of this video should be, "Why does everyone like to be shit on by Intel"

                                                                                • Pure Gameplay
                                                                                  Pure Gameplay  4 days back

                                                                                  Its not the budget option, is the logical option. Thats like saying every bag other than gucci is just a budget bag, when in reality some shit is just overpriced swag trash.

                                                                                  • DAVID L CARTER
                                                                                    DAVID L CARTER  4 days back

                                                                                    I knew big man would win this challenge,,, can you guys do the same thing with a 5 gpu mining rig?? THAT WOULD BE COOL

                                                                                    • DAVID L CARTER
                                                                                      DAVID L CARTER  4 days back

                                                                                      I have no reason to change and I am sticking with AMD

                                                                                      • DAVID L CARTER
                                                                                        DAVID L CARTER  4 days back

                                                                                        llinus AMD is for smart people like me that want the best for my money ,,I build miners and I am glad I bought the right RX590 NITRO cards for my miners and they work great and I see Nvidia trying to keep up with the 200 to 250 usd cards and I am glad to see the MH/z clock listings recently

                                                                                        • Manuel Jurado
                                                                                          Manuel Jurado  4 days back

                                                                                          One of your best video ever!: Great content, fantastic presentation and awesome execution.
                                                                                          Please do this comparison for at least a couple of budgets more.

                                                                                          • Fran
                                                                                            Fran  4 days back

                                                                                            You are using liquid cooling, which wasn't in none of the lists 🤦

                                                                                            • AndreasRiborg
                                                                                              AndreasRiborg  3 days back

                                                                                              I know right, lets see the overclocking in the actual budget case

                                                                                          • Ashley Perkins
                                                                                            Ashley Perkins  4 days back

                                                                                            so he cheated by putting a non amd graphics card in the amd build....

                                                                                            • SanityDragon
                                                                                              SanityDragon  4 days back

                                                                                              Productivity would also be interesting as i'm guessing the intel chip would win in premiere (quicksync) but the Ryzen chip would smash rendering? Nice video; worth a part 2 for productivity and then an all round balance?